we saw this on staten island. sometimes minor offenders are the most put out by this understandably. they're saying you don't have anything better to do. but it's important to have the equilibrium. what is it that got these officers involved? what did they do? was it reasonable? was it proper? and was there any other way to prevent it. but you can never, ever promise people if you're putting the police forward to make enforcement decisions. that they're always going to end in a way that's satisfactory or makes people -- there are unsettling outcomes including using force, which is never going to look good on people. >> the mayor of baltimore has announced that there will be a full investigation. what do you expect to be a part of that investigation? >> best as i can tell we still don't have clarity. i think they're saying a knife charge. it's been several days so i don't know why it takes so long to try to get factual accounting to people. what is it that this pursuit was about? i think people are entitled to think the longer it goes on, are they hiding something?