days i could get a little bit of interaction with people before i get out of society because 12 years of supermax is no it -- well, actually 16 years, so it's not a good transition to go before, you know. if i'm too dangerous to go to level five, how am i not too dangerous to go to population? >> i don't want you to go with any false impressions. what's going to happen is you are still six/five and they're going to review you. any decrease in your custody level be through that process over there in level five. you still need to follow that process for a level six step five. have a good day. enjoy it. >> whatever. >> i got 60 days to go home. by the time the process happens there i'll be lucky if i get two weeks to come out on the tier with people. anything is better than nothing, i guess. you interact with somebody physically because there's no