it's a very subtle line of attack that sounds perhaps fair, or within -- let's say within the foul lines. i think they know what they're doing here. how does she respond to it? >> they do know what they're doing. it also has the element of they'll probably talk about richard nixon. they'll bring in monica lewinsky and bill clinton without saying so. that's what they're doing as well. trying to say the clintons are above the law. remember the first term and bill clinton as well. how will she get past it? i think the key is right now the polls suggested voters are not very consumed by this e-mail discussion. and as long as she can keep talk about e-mail, people find that to be a little confusing, a little bit beneath them, like republicans focusing on her e-mail. it becomes a broader issue about her being secretive or her being distrustful. that's one thing. if it remains about e-mail, i think she'll be fine. >> let's bring in senator claire mccaskill of missouri. she joins us right now live. thank you. this angle that hillary clinton isn't a crook, they're not going