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trying to work out. an american president doesn't have a lot of control over it. all he can do is try to work around the edges and seize on opportunities. in the case of iran, we're not going to know for years whether or not a nuclear deal with iran actually worked out. do they cheat? did they not cheat? we won't know that for a number of years. so obama's making -- he's making a bold bid here and i give him points for that. that's good but he's got to remember, reagan tried to be bold. that didn't work out too well. it almost destroyed his presidency, the iran affair. carter tried to be bold. that didn't work out so well. so it's very difficult territory. the biggest problem, of course, is that we think that they think like we do, and they don't. >> very good point you make there as with all the others. historian rick shenkman, thank you so much. in a moment, storm chasers get caught up in a hailstorm and find ways to cope with the painful pelting.

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