other places. >> can you cross the line for us a second and see if you think it was a gop person who can deliver that message? >> i actually think joe is right about 100% of his analysis. i think jeb bush is the toughest candidate for us. usually the republicans actually do end up picking the moderate. after all, the right wing stuff that goes on in their primaries. but there's real resentment object the bush about the bush family in the republican party. i think all the other challengers, some of them are better politicians than others. but all of them have problems. ted cruz is out there saying things that are unacceptable to about 70% of the american people. you'd rather have that than a jeb bush who has a proven track record. his views certainly aren't my views. he stumbled, i thought, in indiana and tried to catch himself later because i think the american people are tired of the anti-gay anti-immigration,