>> if you're really still and really calm, a bee will not hurt you. >> he should not be laughing while the kids are being attacked by killer bees. >> no, he's adorable. >> when bees come around my kids are freaking out. i would always be like they're more scared of you than you are of them. of course i will walk past -- they'll hit their head on the corner, don't -- it's more scared of you. i say that about everything. but, yeah, sit there. but you had a fascinating point during the break of -- i'm laughing because i say that to kate and kate is like okay dad, i know. inanimate objects, everything. you had a discussion about hillary clinton. >> no, i was just thinking about jason's article and we'll have to have him back. i just wonder because when you think about what bad campaigning is and you inadvertently mentioned her laugh that everyone took wrong. i'm not sure men get looked at that way and i just wonder how much of it is that we're just not used to a woman doing this very well. i'm not sure --