and we know what works in the democratic party. you had john kennedy, jimmy carter, bill clinton, average age, 46. it's time for the republican party to at least entertain the notion of generational change in the party. people who are willing to take the case and show some contrast to the left. i think we should have a wide-open primary. >> so just to clarify, you have two arguments. a women in her 40s, somebody further on the right than the center? >> we need somebody who can win. mitt romney won one of the nine swing states. we know what doesn't work. >> i understand. but here's -- but this is what i don't understand. do you think ted cruz, as he plays to the white evangelical votes and basically talks about this being a christian nation, announcing this campaign that he can do better in these swing