where you realize the world is bright to you now? >> when it's a real apology, you don't get to refuse the important questions. >> that's right. >> one thing he did say in answer to a question was, he said i've met with these people and they've opened my eyes to things i had not been exposed to leading up to this event. he also said, when one of the reporters asked him, why didn't you understand that those words were bad words in the song? he said, i knew they were wrong, but i never knew how or why they were wrong. so mark thompson, he's never seen 12 years a slave, he's never seen "selma." he's obviously never read a chapter of anything in american history in his texas education with the word "lynching" in it. >> well, that's -- >> and he lives in a family where that's the way it goes. >> that's very likely. i think it was alluded to at the