so there's a lot of discussion now about what is the best approach an indeed we'll have a meeting in a few weeks in israel to talk about women of jewish descent and whether she should be tested if he have a family history or not. this topic has been brought forward in our field recently and we're discussing it. it is in the state of flux. the good news is that having the test and finding out you are at high risk there are interventions that can make a really big difference and can be translated to survival you'll live longer if you remove the o ovaries, the good news there's things we can do to prevent cancer here and that is the important part of this take home message. >> dr. larry norton i appreciate you coming in. an important message. >> thank you very much for having me. >> and coming up, an update on crash of the germanwings plane