>> yes, it will help hillary clinton. it will help the democratic party to have a competitive primary process. but let me say this, lawrence. senator elizabeth warren, no relation by the way, although maybe spiritually. she is already running. this is a shadow primary. and she has been vocal on these issues like anna pointed out. the clip you showed of hillary clinton, if you didn't show it to us and we just listened, you might have thought it was senator elizabeth warren. she has already moved to the left to respond to the populism of elizabeth warren. so in some ways, she's running. maybe she hasn't declared fishily. she's running in a shadow primary and already influencing the language, the rhetoric of former secretary of state and soon to be presidential candidate hillary clinton. >> lawrence, could i -- >> let me get sam in here and i'll come back to you. there were a lot of overlaps in these pieces.