>> joining me now to talk about this, washington bureau chief for "time" magazine michael sherif. clancy was an insider pick. he was someone who had a previously long standing relationship with the secret service. when the secret service had all these problems over the past few years, a bipartisan group of lawmakers say it's time if r this organization to have real disruption, to be changed up. an outsider would be the best. president obama ignored that. he said i like him. the first lady likes him. he's a good guy. it seems he has been hit over the head one after another in these hearings. maybe that outsider would have been a better call. >> it was the president's choice here. the president knew joseph clancy because he led his personal protective detail. that means everywhere the president went for years, joe clancy was walking through the door before he did. i don't think any of these have called into question clancy's integrity or his willingness to do his job.