you're attached to your phone, we're gone. >> let me ask this though. i worry about the standards for 21st century parenting, which strike me both as pretty oppressive particularly for women and working women and also not in line with what most of human parenting was, right. for most of human parenting, toddler person is at the house and you are doing whatever with the cows in the wherever and if toddler is having feeling about it, so what because you're with the cows and the wherever. then you come home and toddler person iokayis okay. so is there a standard of patient parenting that is let me interact with you at all moments, which may actually not be what they need for human development. >> i couldn't agree more. this is the nuance that is difficult for all of us to achieve. they need us they need to know we're available. when your toddler calls from the next room and says, mommy, and you say yeah that's often all they need just to know that you're there. but when you're tied to your phone or your computer none of us really hear.