the hill are often lecturing the unemployed about not taking the time to invest in the skills that employers want and yet these guys don't even seem to understand, you know what's really required of the modern worker today. >> point taken. i get it. i get it. sometimes nothing good comes out of a -- >> i like the post debate that we have. >> catherine rampell, always good to have you on. thank you very much. on monday's show by the way, you cannot accuse her of not being logged in. prolific tweeter and u.s. senator. claire mccaskill joins us onset in washington. up next julia roberts did it for jimmy kimmel and last night it was president obama's turn. we'll sheeow you what it was when we come back.