dangerous situation? what was the vibe like? >> certainly no. when gunshots rang out, it was a calm moment. and naturally when you have a large group of people gathered together anyway, you have some people who have disagreements. but overall the protests are often peaceful aside from police officers arresting people in the street. but overall it was a pretty peaceful night. like i said, the -- it was almost -- i won't call it -- it was basically dead. basically. everyone was going home. it was the end of the night. gunshots came out of nowhere so it was a surprise to us all. >> bradley rayford, thanks for helping us understand what it was like. >> thank you for having me on. >> thanks. we've got a couple of great things still to come tonight on the show. number one, a triumph in local news coverage. a triumph. and two, the interview tonight which tonight is a very rare species for this show. and it comes from texas. and i'm really looking forward to this. please stay with us.