>> yes. >> for their psychological health or conscience, they can tell themselves they were not the ones that meted out death to this person? >> right. if there's a tern you have to realize, too this is a volunteer basis. based on the jurisdiction that investigated the murder in the first place, and it goes out regionally. >> you talked several times, i've seen several interviews you've done that this is a basically backup as utah like many states has run out of the chemicals for the lethal injection. there is another option you cannot execute people. >> this bill wasn't that option. that's a discussion that i'm sure we'll have in the near future. i'm okay having that discussion. but for what we have right now, this is the legislation that needed to come forward. >> are you confident that utah and other states can avoid the kind of grisly horrific spectacle that we have seen in oklahoma and arizona as these drugs become more and more scarce? >> you know, with the firing squad, obviously that will be