there's something attractive about libertarianism you're healthy, you're young, everything looks like blue skies, toipti want to be a libertarian. >> the "c" in cpac stands for conservative. it's no surprise that chris christie is way back that jeb bush is way back or that he was even booed. >> is this richie havens -- >> we can't -- >> i get you. is there another republican party besides cpac? where is this moderate republican party? >> the money party. there's a money party and the money party is not the cpac party. i mean, the folks who are lining up their money to give to either jeb bush or the more serious i guess we'd call them establishment candidates, those guys aren't at cpac ranting and raving. they're sitting at wall street around the country on golf courses talking quietly and writing large checks. >> don't you think it's interesting the thing jeb bush gets beat up for which is being too moderate rand paul is actually the person who's