somebody like scott walker herman cain. they never had to face somebody with that kind of krebltd with the conservative base. >> i agree. the immigration stuff is really tough. the other issue he was talked about was common core which is a big issue among the republican base. so i think it's tough. you know he's not going to win iowa. i think he has to have a strong showing there to prove he can win over conservative activists and that he's not going to be relying on new hampshire and praying for florida. >> let me say, i was on the romney campaign i was one of his spokes people. let me tell you what i think is the difference here. i don't think anyone is going to accuse jeb bush on flip-flopping on these issues. he didn't walk away from it. he did not walk away from it all or his immigration position. this isn't a shift the way senator rubio has and so forth. i think this will help him.