here. he was able to convey a conservative message while sticking to principals. the booing was pretty good. >> beyond cpac the loser here is senator rubio. >> here is what i agree with you on. the line that jeb bush said a at the beginning of all this a few months ago, you got to be willing to lose the primary to win the general. i thought about this is this the kind of thing where you lose a primary. we just talked about chris matthews about immigration and today's republican base. >> the last time around the primary was completely topsy turvey. then south carolina gingrich won. you could totally see a situation where jeb bush loses south carolina because of his positions. guys like romney and jeb bush they don't care about losing south carolina anymore. >> here's the difference i see between how romney got the nomination, how mccain got it in 2008 and the trouble jeb bush has. al they didn't run against