to intercept these gentleman, two of them were before they made their way over to isis where they want today go, and join the jihad which would have made them full blown members. so pulling them off of the jetway is the way that we want to do is rather than have to have a laser guided bomb to do the solution for us. >> you mentioned bombing them, trying to take them out if they do make it over there. the other issue that we see with jihadi john is that there may be some sort of propaganda benefit to addressing and demystifying him. i want to read a view of that to you.