like in the scheme of all the issues that we can grapple with the government that can create jobs or change the trajectory of our economy, one pipeline in all the time people spend thinking about it. debating it. in the scheme of things it is almost irrelevant. >> it becomes symbolic about sizing, you are right, at the end of the day, will is not a lot of relevance other than the fact this is one of the vetos the president is used. he is using it specifically because he is scared about the big fundamentalist party. there is just no other logical reason for this. >> he doesn't care right? he gets all schooled up. >> especially one that is more environment ally safe according to his own state department. than if you don't build it. >> all right. we continue the debate. up next he calls the west show down against vladmir putin the most serious thing since the