they can try to seek the death penalty in the case or they can do what is called a mini camp. not seek the death penalty. in the event of a verdict of guilty, it is automatic. life without parole. >> michael, why did he do this? this that was one of the questions that's been out there. however, what the jury was charged with trying to determine is, did he know what he did was wrong? and was there enough information from your perspective, as you were watching this case, that would help us get a better understanding as to why he did this and was there enough information to understand that other question, did he know what did he was wrong? >> that's an extremely interesting point that you're making. i had this discussion earlier today with my colleague, jack helms. motive, of course, is not an element of the offense. but certainly it would be better for the state if they were able