courtroom there. charles, do we know if we're going to get that transmission back from the courtroom? >> we're probably not. that was the judge's order that after punishment the feed would be pulled. he will instruct the jury that they can or can't talk to the media as they leave. then they will begin that victim impact statement that will not be recorded at all. but the people in the courtroom will be able to hear from the victim. >> and michael snipes is also still with us, former texas judge. so judge snipes it seems to be occurring exactly as you predicted, an immediate imposition of sentence. since it's an automatic sentence. now it seems there will be that relatively private victim impact statement in the courtroom. >> that's absolutely customary. in fact, as i listened to the judge, it brought back memories of the kind of instructions that he gave to the jury and the way that he pronounced sentence in