and, you know, again, it's a big part of being leadership. it is kind of tough to go to people and ask for money when you've got a david duke albatross hanging around your neck. >> it doesn't sound good in any language, no matter how you said that. >> john stem, john, thank you very much: i appreciate you being here. >> good to be here. >> i will say, david duke, anybody in the news business knows, is one of those sort of fringe guys that really thrives on publicity. i think he has never not returned a press call. the press is what is his life blood. i don't know if there is congress that david duke might release more names, but this is a guy who loves to be in the news, who loves to have his name out there. if he can do that by drip, drip, dripping more names out there in response to the way skalise is being treated, i'm sure he will. this story is not over by a long shot. we'll be right back.