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otherwise, if you start developing any types of cold symptoms or that feeling like suddenly you've been hit by a truck, immediately go see the doctor. one of the things we talked about is epidemic what do we have to take from that -- >> well the point there is we can pull up the visual again. when you hear the word epidemic that's a pretty heavy word. it's covering all these states we're seeing. of course there's unfortunate loss of life. children have died. >> yeah so we have to be concerned. there are deaths and there are preventable deaths as well. the word epidemic actually the way it's defined is you look at how many deaths are caused by flu related complications. there are two ways of reaching an epidemic level. you can have more deaths from complications. so it's hard to really gauge what this means. we have to look compared to previous years. we have more hospitalizations, that's true. but that may not -- >> what is that ratio? >> it's 6.8%.

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