some reforms and the sky didn't fall. actually crime has continued. they lost that battle in the city counsel. they lost that battle in the federal judge's court several times and they also lost in the election so they are frustrated and taking this to a feverish rhetorical pitch, and i think it is dangerous. >> perfect former mayor thinking the now mayor bill de blasio should apologize to the police department. do you agree and what would it be for. >> i am dismayed that the former mayor is even in this conversation because he shouldn't be. he didn't leave here on a high note and i don't think he did much for the city. my hope is that he would be less quiet not more talkative. i do think this conversation has to continue and we have to do it in a manner that is civil.