guilty, my mindset's going to be like, it's not going to -- it's going to be [ bleep ] up. the real monster's going to come out. >> unlike kunkel, albert cermano, facing a possible death sentence for murder, was hoping to avoid a jury and cut a deal for 25 to life. but he's just gotten word that the prosecutor said no way. so now it's on to plan b. letting his lawyers submit a plea bargain for natural life, meaning he will never be a free man. >> i've asked my lawyer to ask for it because they denied the 25 to life. so i asked him to put in for the natural life, and he was telling me that's probably my best bet, too, because he says he don't even see a 50/50 chance of me winning my case. i just said [ bleep ] it. >> but there was a development with one of cermano's co-defendants. his mother connie, housed four miles away at maricopa women's facility, has pled guilty for her role in the murder.