we should be most worried about. >> let's bring in msnbc jim cavanaugh, atf retired special agent. let's talk about this notion eugene was just mentioning about the feeling of police officers. we have a lot of demoralized police officers in new york right now, perhaps throughout the nation, and just their basic everyday notion of officers being killed every single day. can't imagine what that -- what that's like, that being part of your line of work. talk about what it is like to be a man or woman on the beat and fearing death and having the community saying whatever they're saying about you and, perhaps, not even feeling supported by your mayor as well in new york. >> right. i mean, these things run deep. you know, when you're in a radio car, and i wore the uniform, everything you do, people know who you are, they know -- they look at everything they do, they watch you, you're on display in the community. but eugene makes a good point about the morale of the police. i think it's so important.