and i understand the pentagon is trying to point out that these air strikes are achieving something. but, you know, killing three guys, none of whom is the leader of isis, none of whom is a face in their video. i mean, these people may be significant figures, but they're not key leaders in the sense of that isis is not going to stop operating without them. and, i think we have to be realistic. stopping isis is not going to be about killing one or two people. i mean, if you think back to iraq in the heyday, first we killed zarkawi, that didn't stop the group. and we killed the predecessor. that didn't stop the group. in fact, it got stronger. so i think trying to, you know, trying to understand how we're doing against isis in terms of how many people we've killed may not be the greatest, you know, measurement or way of measuring that. progress is not measured simply by getting rid of mid-level commanders. and i think, you know, even if