if there was someone who was nent? >> it would be horrible. it would be absolutely horrible. >> the key is a system that is transparent. >> i always want the media to be involved in every execution. they have to be there. i mean, that is the public's eye into what is going on. and the ultimate bureaucratic solution. the ultimate bureaucratic solution. the highest state's bur ok real sill there. >> yes. >> go to allinwithchris.com. you can also find a link to fantastic reporting on larry and michelle which inspired us to go down there to learn more about their experiences. that is "all in" for this evening. good evening, rachel. >> good evening, chris. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. julia got some money for christmas. con gratulations, julia.