unfortunately for republicans, they don't have that right now. they're struggling in a holding pattern, waiting to see what will happen out of this meeting. if you think about the 200 democrats that they have in the caucus, the fact they can't get to 40 or 50, really shows the power of pelosi and warren. whether there's an all-out lobbying effort right now. i talked to members who are getting calls, telling them to go forward on this. the obamacare gives them money to go after isis, for ebola. but a lot of priorities that are protected for the next fiscal year. the house democrats don't care, they want to fight about dodd-frank, and they want to fight now. >> you're saying the white house is saying they would get a worse bill when the republicans take over in january. but the fact is that the government would not shut down. they do have a plan b in case they don't get the votes, isn't that right? >> sure. the backup plan was they would have something that lasts maybe a week, maybe it's a few days, and then next week, they would