>> i think prior to today, it was certainly hard to get at this kind of fact base, but i think you're right, there wasn't a lot of eagerness to look into it. let's listen to what senator chambliss said today on the senator floor. >> everyone must remember that the cia was directed to conduct this program by the president. i have spoken with a number of cia officers over the years who remember the contentious debates about the program at the time it was being considered. but at the end of the day, the agency did what the president directed them to do. under color of law and based upon opinions issued and jut dated by the department of justice. >> but glenn, in the documents today, we discovered that the president didn't know as much about this, one, when it was first getting under way, didn't know as much about it apparently for possibly a number of years while it was going on. >> right. the cia has been a rogue agency