secrets didn't have to do with something like is a raid that was happening the next day or the next week in which there was time sensitive information, but about a program that wept on for years and years in which the congress was being asked to fund unwittingly. >> senator lindsay graham, a republican who supports the release of this report, supports the findings in it along with republican john mccain said that he plooefs this happened out of fear. the ci a's motivation for doing this was oit of fear after 9/11, what he considered an understandable fear. he thinks it was done by well meaning people, and it got out of control. in your peerns with the cia, would that be your impression of how this happened? >> i think there's probably an element of that. but there's also a fear of criticism. and fear of being called to