>> i agree that things have definitely deteriorated. we look at a situation like ferguson and people say, that's causing more racial division. the fact of the matter is, ferguson is a manifestation of the racial division as we see it right now. obviously, there are a lot of people around this nation who feel things are unfair for them, who feel disinfranchised. it makes them ripe for a tinder box situation like this. >> it seems to be almost universal agreement on this. >> i have to disagree on this. we are looking at mike brown. but the issue of law enforcement and the killing of unarmed african-americans and the assault of unarmed african-americans has been going on for decades and has nothing to do with obama. my first exposure was when i was 10-year-old. this is in the early 1970s. the difference now is that we have these photos, we have these cell phone pictures.