after those east africa embassy bombings, the next day we never saw bin laden in communications again giving him the opportunity to plan 9/11 without any collection by nsa or others. here is what some of our allies have said. the information that nsa and others would have provided on folks like shabaz in somalia would have been key to helping understand westgate and the recent attacks against somalia. they had no intelligence to do it. now, the issue is how do you point to the lack of intelligence, what you have lost? and the answer is we do see, we have seen collection that shows they're changing the way they operate, and that is a logical thing for the terrorists to do. they learn by what they're hearing, and they're going to change the way they operate. what we're really concerned about, this is growing. i think even anthony agreed with that, the terrorist threat is real. >> i want to give you a moment to respond, but let me just ask