vaporized by this war against coal. >> that's the other interesting thing. that's one distinction natalie tennant drew. so much for country hospitality. elizabeth warren comes in, she'll stand up to her on the so-called war on coal. it's a balancing act. >> there's a reason you're seeing people like natalie tennant distance themselves from president obama and embrace elizabeth warren. elizabeth warren is touting a populist message. rand paul could have written the book and changed some of the bio and you would have believed most of what was in it because her message is largely, hey, we need to look out for the little guy. everyone agrees with that. there's a big difference versus someone like president obama, he's the person occupying the oval office and there's dysfunction in washington. >> let me ask you a question. i'm obviously on the