almost at will, it seems. but there's been about 20, an average of 130 a day. hamas looks organized. well dug in. they've been preparing for the operation for a long time. and israelis have full respect for what hamas has been able to achieve. they went in reluctantly and with full force. >> just to point out the numbers, since july 8th, in terms of casualties and debts, we have 260 palestinians which have been killed, including roughly about 14 children under the age of 12. that happened on wednesday and thursday. and more than 2,000 wounded. in israel, one civilian dead and several others wounded. obviously, those in gaza are taking a much more detrimental and deathly toll than those in israel. >> well, that's right. and israel does not apologize for that. israel says we were forced into doing this. hamas is hiding its rocket locations among civilians. hence, the death toll. and israel says we'll do what we