leadership. i think that europe from indications here will go along with these carefully targeted sanctions. for example, we're not preventing rosneft from access to the u.s. baunking system for short-term loans. this is what i'm told. >> that's correct. >> but hints at what sectoral sanctions could look at. and europe will support some of this anyway with respect to the ebrd, the european bank for reconstruction and development. and the european investment bank. and if europe goes there and apparently we think it's likely that europe will go there with respect to its own sanctions, this will reinforce a strong message to putin. again, we don't know what putin's role was in this horror a few hours ago in ukraine. but the fact that we are imposing greater for the mischief that they are imposing