spying on us. this is a very big deal, your meeting yesterday. i want to ask you about israel and how sustainable israel's policy, they say it's self-defense. john kerry today in beijing supported their right to self-defense. but they are firing rockets into gaza. and as i was saying to israel's ambassador, a key ally of the united states yesterday, it is asymmetric. they have iron domes. they are going into shelters. it's a terrible strain on the israeli populous. but the people in gaza are getting hit because hamas is reportedly hiding weapons manufacture in civilian dense civilian areas. and they are taking terrible casualties. >> well, look. the loss of civilian lives on either side is a horrible reality. but by the same token, andrea, if hundreds of missiles were being fired by a neighboring part of the world, into the