all the stuff that you just told us about ordering hits, that kind of thing, you're going to have to do that. you're going to have to put that to writing. >> just for my own understanding, what is the main source of your change of heart? >> basically i'm tired of doing other people's dirty work, of ordering people to do things that because -- for someone else's selfish reasons, when, in fact, it doesn't benefit me here nor there. i was ordered to kill a dear friend of mine, and i really didn't appreciate that. >> good enough for me. >> there's no guarantees. so it really has to come from within the inmate of him wanting to change who he is. and it was interesting to see these guys do this and put themselves through this process, knowing that, you know, they're dead men walking. >> for now spiller will stay in a transitional housing unit with other inmates who are also in the debriefing process, all men that raul leon despises. >> i don't know how can they