issues on the campaign trail. what role do you think he will play in the campaign for hillary clinton? >> we flr are in a different place. hillary clinton has been out of fofrs a couple more years. maybe the flaws we remember to well have fadeed. hillary clinton has much more independent stature now than last time around. last time she had to establish she was candidate in her own right and not just the wife of bill clinton. even though she served in the senate. that is not a factor now. she is much more able to accept some help from bill clinton than she was. and i think in this case, bill clinton is a total positive. when she says it is sweet for him to defend me but i don't need it. on an issue like this, bill clinton cannot defend her. she needs to make her own case in a nondefense you've way about what she meant. now that she is really rich and continues to have a connection with americans who weren't.