backing that individual. that individual ended up getting about 30% of the vote when i got 62. oklahomans -- as a matter of fact, there's been op eds written on it. they'd just as soon everybody stay out. >> tom coburn -- >> he is a smart guy, yes, he is. people listen to him in oklahoma. they certainly did last night. >> they did. what's interesting, coburn was very careful. he didn't fully take sides. boy, any time he thought things got over the line in the attacks on langford, he stepped in. it was interesting, he played referee here. campaigns matter. langford ran a good old-fashioned smart, statewide campaign, sort of nose to the grindstone, didn't play -- didn't worry about star power, didn't worry about the -- some people were trying to turn this into some sort of tea party establishment thing. how is the statehouse speaker any less establishment than a member of congress? i always thought that that was a