recovering the e-mails, like everybody else does, i destroyed the computer. now, trust me, if any of us did that, we would be thrown in jail by the irs. >> by the irs criminal division, by the irs! >> we all know that to be the case. we all know that to be be the case. for the irs to have a commissioner go on capitol hill and show that kind of arrogance, like how dare you audit us! is basically what he is saying. we can run that clip again all day. he was lying. he got caught lying. you could go through it. >> yep. >> this is a pathetic display. ed rendell, why does the obama administration keep this guy in there? >> first of all, it may well have been incompetence. it's a possibility, but when you don't disclose that something like this happened, when you get caught without disclosing it, if he had disclosed it, at least it takes a little bit of the cover-up aspect of it away.