ronaldo, in the world, he is better than messi. but no, what you saw for 90 minutes, i mean, such a heartbreak. what you saw was the coming-of-age of american soccer. >> it's true. it's true. with us on set, we have "morning joe" contributor mark halperin, chairman of deutsche incorporated, donny deutsch, did you watch? >> i did. >> bobby gauche. and in washington, columnist for bloomberg view, al hunt. >> did everybody watch? you watch? al, you watched? >> i watched. >> i can tell you, i'm serious, it was very quiet around my town. other than the super bowl, there aren't a lot of events where i've seen people -- as many people that i know stop and watch. >> this is the year, you said american soccer came of age as far as the team. i think the sport itself in this country, something happened this year where it finally popped. world cup has kind of