>> you go from a pecking order type mentality into an economic society, and it's tough, it really is, because everybody is wearing the same clothes, everything's uniform. it don't matter about what type of car you drive, what type of house you live in, how much money you got. that's kind of irrelevant in prison because it's a pecking order society. it's the strong, you know, and that's how you survive. >> before i met him, all i had was this image of this gruff, ripped guy who could take on the whole team of officers, and upon meeting him, i just was shocked to find out that he's actually kind of a calm and collected guy who is not this monster that you see on these cell extraction videos. >> i didn't even know how to turn the computer on until recently. >> what was most interesting to me about roy is he was just learning how to use a computer. and he had been told by everybody that he was somewhat famous thanks to the internet and these cell extractions that were on "lockup." >> it's kind of fascinating to