miles. that's not a uniform area. the specific projects they were diverting money to were in a gray zone. so sampson tie it together. >> i want to go to scott. there was a perception about this case from what i know about politics. politicians with big ambitions like to keep the army fed. they like to make sure the lawyers used to work for them for good deals. there is money to be made. they are not all selfless people including the bundlers. there is a triangle that works. you get money, they get something back. you keep feeding your army, they work for you. they bring other people to work for you. this feeding frenzy in politics at the disgusting end of it which we are watching here, tell me about it. why would the governor care about sampson's project whether are it's in hoboken or there is something else going on? >> it's stunning when you sit back and realize when we talk about sampson this is a former attorney squen of the state of new jersey. this is a 74-year-old man with a