way to 2016. anyway, joining us is long-time crisis pr expert and vice chair howard bragman. this looks to me like classic crisis management. he and his pr team have said you've got to wait a long time, many months to find out if you're clean of this legal entanglement. you have people who may get indicted. you don't know that. but you've got to assume and have a contingency plan if you do avoid indictment. if nobody too close to you gets indicted, you've already got some momentum. i think that's what he's up to. >> i think this was a very good political moment. he went to jimmy fallon who's been very critical of him. you get extra points for going into the lion's den, gone very viral, very funny, very well written. all these things work to his benefit. a great moment. but i don't think in any way do i see this as a game changer. and that's the issue here. any more than nixon ended up being a warm, cuddly president after he said sock it to me. he's not going to change who he is. and further, chris, there's one thing.