mcintosh with emily's list. lizza had this interesting piece where he talked about the populist campaign that brat ran, in which he talked about the fact that big business and big government were in with each other. he talked about wall street and talked about the fact that cantor wasn't on the side of the little guy. and i think there's a lot of -- there's a lot of populist anger against congress and eric cantor kind of represented the worst of it. >> and i spoke to a couple of local reporters from that district today. and they both had stories, along the lines of, cantor when he would rarely visit the district, would come in with an suv and a bunch of bodyguards, and literally shove people out of the way. and so i think that kind of expanded upon that narrative. i think that's why that narrative stuck to a guy like cantor, because he seems to have been sort of personally the epitome of -- >> that's right.