where she i think fell down a little bit in that interview is answering the real policy and practi practice. when i read that report, it did exonerate her. the things she was accused of were awful and ridiculous err skur louse. there were management flaws. i think she has to get a little bit more in the weeds in terms of what the security situation was and what might have been done differently. if she doesn't, those questions will dog her. >> when she admitted in that interview, the last 24 hours, i think it was diane sawyer, that it was a systemic problem out there in the state department. a systemic problem would cost shinseki his job. my view is get with it, guys.