it's down right ugly. and proof that some on the right are just chomping at the bit to provide these ugly smearing. joining me now ojoe madison and joe con any son. thank you both for being here. >> i can understand why people disagree with the president's poll six but suggesting he's a muslim and sympathizing with terrorists, isn't something out of bounds? >> not anymore, rev. i mean, this has been a theme they've pursued with this president almost from bet gining. the secret muslim. do you remember the madrasa he supposedly went to. exposed it as just a regular school. and they left that -- they forget about that. that was over, so they moved on to the next thing. it will never stop. the reason is he won re-election. he defeated them. it was the same thing with clinton.