conversation about how you deal with the facts of a warming planet in all kinds of different ways, there could be libertarian arguments, statist arguments, there's all sorts of ways. >> in fact, i think the republican party is missing out on occasions to shape legislation in the face of climate change, that could favor their interests going forward. because right now, there's so many that are busy trying to stand in denial. >> right. >> of an emerging scientific truth. the problem, of course, is that so many republicans today are, in fact, in denial of an emergent scientific truth. and yet when i interviewed congressman michael grimm, i thought i had clearly found a republican not afraid to recognize the emergent scientific truth. not so fast. congressman grimm is now predictably and sadly, back sliding. >> do i think the climate is changing? yeah, i think so. but my argument has always been, and so many people have taken